Re: [Fwd: Anyone programming Windows apps in Forth?]

> My take is that even for people like myself who would FAR rather be
> programming in Forth, the complexity of the Windows interface in both
> SwiftForth and VFX are reason to seriously question whether taking on a
> large Windows application in Forth is a good idea; and I'm not even
> considering using iForth for it, in spite of its other merits, because
> there is no discernable Windows GUI help at all.
>
> So I'm looking to see if anyone at all is doing Windows programming in
> Forth where a rich Windows interface is required, with lots of widgets
> being created, moved around the screen, and so on.
>
> Secondary to that, it seems to me that the issues that have caused me to
> take a second look at using Forth instead of VB might well be causing
other
> VB programmers to do the same. Which is the fact that VB is about to be
> orphaned, and that .NET is a lousy choice for anything that needs smooth
> control of timed events.
>
> So maybe there is an opportunity here for those of us who love Forth and
> want to see it become more of a mainstream programming choice.
>
> The opportunity is in the Windows interface, which right now is very un
> Forth like in SwiftForth and VFX, and non existent in iForth. If
> programming Windows in Forth is just as Byzantine as in C++, why would
> anyone who already has C++ chops change, and why would a VB programmer who
> needs to move to another language choose it over C++? Answer: they would
not.
>
> But if Forth had a far simpler means of creating Windows objects, and
> particularly if some of the OCX controls could be used in Forth, I have to
> believe some non trivial number of soon to be ex VB programmers will
choose
> it over C++.
>
> Maybe this is just wishful thinking. I'm hoping to get a feel for it by
> the response to these postings.
>
> >but I'm sure the folks there
> >would be interested in your comments on programming without,
> >as well as knowing what kind of applications you're doing.

You know that you can use a VB interface with Forth. Maybe, there can be an
intermediate solution of using the VB interface window controls while
another
project to design them in forth can be in progress.

Myself, I want multimedia for Online Course Software and was hoping that my
forth would speed me up. As easy as it is, of course, Windows is the
learning
curve that is holding me back from my projects. I would definitely be
interested
the kinds of Window Interface Project where there is shareable code base for
forth.

Jodell

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