Re: [Fwd: Anyone programming Windows apps in Forth?]

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From: "marc_hawley" <marc_hawley_at_msn.com>
To: <sftalk_at_forth.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: [sftalk] Re: [Fwd: Anyone programming Windows apps in Forth?]

>
> I'm not sure I understand the thread here, but I do program Windows
> applications using SwiftForth. My applications have menus, buttons,
dialogs,
> help files, file access, printer control, font selection, etc.
>
It is really about the Windows Interface pre-fab tool kits; here are some
examples
http://www.dolfina.org/tutorials/textedit.htm for designing text editors. VB
has a
Code Designer where there are Panels that have pre-fab code that you Point,
Click
and Customize.

Bernard Payson, who programs with Gforth, has similar toolkit for Rapid GUI
Development calledMinos: http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/bigforth.html#MINOS but
stresses,

"MINOS is available under the GPL, not the LGPL. I want to stress that this
means you cannot develop applications with it that are not either under the
GPL, or distributed seperately as sources, just as with other GPLed
libraries (for example, readline). For people wanting to develop
applications with it that are under different licencing conditions, a
commercial licence is available at request so that MINOS can be a choice for
proprietary systems, too. I'll certainly give major contributors a fair
share."

So it is prohibitive. Yet, it is an example of a Rapid Gui Development
toolkit. I think it could be
fairly simple to program since it would be a toolkit but would be time
consuming. But afterwards,
it would be easy to customize and re-use code.

VB and the Borland Builders have the Rapid Application Development concept
that gives VB/C++/Java
an edge in GUI design as far as being able for a programmer, especially
novice design a GUI quickly.

That of course does not mean the logic of the application will not be buggy.
It only means that the GUI
is easy to Point, Click, Customize and look good.

Jodell

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